Christianity in Europe is gone?
According to the study of the University of St. Mary, most Europeans from 16 to 29 consider themselves to be atheists.
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Here are just a few comments:
- weird to think czechia and poland are neighbors
- Christianity came to Poland mainly from Czechia (The Great Moravia, Czech Kingdom etc.)
- I’ve always found it interesting that the Europeans brought Christianity to the rest of the world (Africa, Asia, the Americas) who are now generally far more religious than modern Europeans who are now deciding to ditch religion altogether.
The switch around was very quick in the grand scheme of things.
- People will always forget religion when they have a full stomach. This has been true throughout history and across all cultures.
- As prosperity in Europe is on the rise, dramatically so in Eastern Europe, people no longer feel the need to turn to God for assistance and hope.
- How do you explain the USA though?
- The most religious parts of the US are also usually the poorest.
- And the least educated. People in other countries might not understand the entrenchment of this, but public education in the US is paid for by local property taxes. So every school district is funded according to the values of the houses in the district.
- In my own small city, there is a well-off area inhabited by doctors and lawyers and the old-money of the area. The schools are very good, the teachers are well paid, and most of the kids that go to them are on a solid college trajectory, university or out of state.
- Only a mile away there is an area that was built up 100 years ago for the workers, loggers, millwrights and hired hands and so forth. The houses are small and often neglected. That area has a school that has always struggled, it’s poorly funded and the kids that go through there are lucky to go to college. Most these days get loans to go to the local community college, for some hoped for job. Plenty of churches in the area too, of course, not that that helps a great deal.
- doesn’t that create a loop that increases the economic gap of the neighbourhoods by lowering the values of the houses then lowering the school funding and lowering the house prices again, and that’s not even counting the graduates who got a worse education so they settle down in the same or similar neighbourhood rather than in richer areas feeding back into this loop
- Not American, but you’re right that social mobility in the US is very limited. The system is unequal, but the good neighbourhood would probably like it to stay that way.
- the good neighbourhood would probably like it to stay that way.
- The “got mine fuck you” America is known for.
- But where is Italy?
- The data is from a Catholic university. My guess would be that the paper was done at a request of the Latin church which probably already has the numbers for Italy. But I don’t know.
- It doesn’t include and other countries like Greece, Cyprus, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Malta etc..Countries that are religious
- So this chart is made just to prove someone’s point… Which makes it way less useful
- No data for Bulgaria too, not very religious.
- Well 81% are orthodox christians
- If other countries are counted like that, then religions are in a deep trouble. Weekly mass/liturgy virtually does not exist (I don’t actually know a single person that goes to church weekly and the most religious people I know go several times in the year at most). Churches are empty outside big holidays. Most people declare orthodox as ethnical attribute (most Bulgarians are very nationalistic) and depending on method of counting some are considered orthodox because they were christened as babies (like me). ‘Religiousness’ is widely pacticed with outright Pagan customs – like leaving food, booze and tobacco on graves, going to seers, and chasing evil spirits after new year – while all these are advised against by the church. If there are 81 percent orthodox Christians in Bulgaria, given the 10 percent Muslim and small, but visible Catholic, Protestant and Evangelist communities, irreligious people must be single digit, which is far off from anything that can be observed. I have seen polls that show little more than half of the population to ‘believe in the existence if God or higher power’ (which should include all religions) so there is a lot more than a grain of salt in such stats.
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